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I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
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I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
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What does this have to do with coin collecting, anyway?
Obscurum per obscurius
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<< <i>If you think corruption is limited to the current President and the Republican Party, you've been drinking too much DNC Kool-Aid.
What does this have to do with coin collecting, anyway?
Im a noob.
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
what prompted you to write this here?
<< <i>all democracies are domocratic, just some are more democratic than others
what prompted you to write this here? >>
History, and my new found interest for collecting coin that is popular.
You would not want to collect coin from the Nazi party would you?
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
oh, WELCOME TO THE FORUM !
I really dont think it is the right forum to debate......but I will say that 42 presidents came before George Bush. While his policies and actions might grind on you, the ball was set in motion decades ago for todays problems. I suspect that US sphere of influence has run its course similar to the Roman empire did many years ago for many reasons.
<< <i>hopefully a mod will be around shortly to delete this drivel.
oh, WELCOME TO THE FORUM ! >>
Its our forum, for them to delete this is like deleting history.
Its ok if you disagree, take with grain of salt,.
Add some interesting facts about the roman empire.
You do value freedom of speech don't you?
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
<< <i>If you think corruption is limited to the current President and the Republican Party, you've been drinking too much DNC Kool-Aid.
What does this have to do with coin collecting, anyway?
No i don't think its limeted, just my limeted writing skill, and the time I had to write it.
I was shooting for information about Roam, and its leaders thats all.
I read somewhere there was only like 4, or 5 good leaders of Roam.
who were they?
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
<< <i>IBTL
Hey thats not funny.
Do you want me to delete it?
isn't coin collecting all about history anyway?
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
<< <i>
<< <i>IBTL
Hey thats not funny.
Do you want me to delete it?
isn't coin collecting all about history anyway? >>
Doesn't bother me.
http://www.marshallmcluhan.com/main.html
Take everything you learn with a sceptical outlook. This, grasshopper, will enlighten you in your search. Take Care, jws.
Unfortunately, the movie "Gladiator" is not.
One of the many historical errors made in the movie is the claim that Marcus Aurelius wanted to restore the Roman Republic. He did not. I'm not aware of any emperors after Nero even paying lip service to "restoring the Republic", let alone planning to do anything about it.
Nor was the old Roman Republic a democracy, in any modern sense of the word. It was an aristocratic, theocratic oligarchy with a rigid caste system, built on blood and powered by slave labour. The Roman economy required regular infusions of fresh plunder and slaves, taken from those nations who were unfortunate enough to be their neighbours.
We can indeed learn a lot from history. But we must beware of taking history and twisting it to better reflect our own personal viewpoint.
As for the comments on the American political system, please keep them to a minimum. This is an international numismatic forum; We Aussies, for example, find American political debates as boring and irrelevant as you would probably think about Australian political debates. We're here to talk coins (and their history), not bore each other to tears with modern politics.
For my personal opinion, well... you can run your country however you like. Just try not to bring down the rest of the planet with you, OK?
Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius, "Meditations"
Apparently I have been awarded one DPOTD.
Total Copper Nutcase - African, British Ships, Channel Islands!!!
'Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup'
<< <i>yes, coins are about history, but your political rants have nothing to do with history... please take them someplace else >>
Gotcha, thanks for the good info. I guess I did get carried away.
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
<< <i>Welcome to the forums! And BTW, it's "Rome." R-O-M-E. >>
Oh, give me a home where the buffalo r-o-m-e . . . . .
Imagine that , Italian buffalo.
After the first 12 emperors, the next 5 are sometimes referred to as the 5 good emperors (Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninianus Pius, and Marcus Aurelius). That's just a convention, and, there were many more effective leaders than poor ones over the 400+ years.
As mentioned elsewhere, Gladiator, 300, the Last Legion and other recent historic movies are fun to watch but at best are on very shaky historic foundations, if at all. If you're interested in this area, may I suggest reading one or two of the fine survey histories? These can be found at libraries or inexpectively on ebay or Amazon.
As they say "Nil sine magno vita labore dedit mortalibus!"
<< <i>You would not want to collect coin from the Nazi party would you? >>
Welcome to the forum. (I'm a noob too...
And yes, I do like to collect coins from the Nazi period (and just about any other period). Not because I, in any way, share the Nazi's insane worldview, but because history is our shared story as a species and objects from historical periods are interesting (particularly coins). I don't look at a 5 mark German coin replete with war bird and swastika as an object of evil crafted by demons. I look at it as a coin that was created through political will by workers that might or might not have been opposed to the symbolism, who might or might not have been prisoners (dunno if the Nazi’s used death house labor in their mint). A coin that was passed from hand to hand, consumer to shop keeper, shop keeper to supplier, supplier to bank (etc) in a war time economy that crumbled into absolute ruin in a few long and terrible years. Then as a coin that survived the great silver melts after the war as Europe’s entire economy was in ruin. And lastly as a coin that was saved by some person somewhere, perhaps an immigrant to our own country, and then maybe passed down to a son or daughter or grandchild. And a coin that is now traded as a "collectible."
The magic of coins, at least for me, is not their designs (although cool), their value as an investment (although I try to buy with the intent of selling someday), their scientific appeal as objects of chemistry (AT vs NT), but their connection to the people as the coin moved from hand to hand.
Take an 8-reale Mexican coin as an example. These darn things were made by the gazillions and passed from hand to hand as exchanged value for many generations. Each time I pick up a "piece of eight" I am connected to the long history of mundane and exciting, legal and illegal, transaction that the coin was a part of for a couple of hundred years.
I find that just fascinating.
Bob
PS: Here is a link to an eBay auction for a 5-mark coin as referenced above. This is not my auction. I don't know the seller. I include the link only because the auction happens to have a photo of the coin I'm talking about. Linkage
I like you already, Bob!
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He was actually a much worse scamp than he was portrayed in the movie.
Details:
Commodus Denarius - Libertas
Obverse: Laureate head right
L AEL AVREL CO-MM AVG P FEL
Reverse: Libertas standing front, holding pileus and rod
LIB AVG PM TRP XVII COS VII PP
Catalog: RIC 241 RSC 288 - Struck AD 192 (Consul VII)
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Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninianus Pius, and Marcus Aurelius, Im gonna study up on these guys , gives me somthing to do instead OF PUTTING my foot in my mouth.
WillieBoyd2 I like that coin looks awsome, thanks for sharing.
I have found power in the mysteries of thought.
It is always a question of knowing and seeing, and not that of believing.
Our virtues, and our failings are inseparable, like force, and matter. When they separate, man is no more.
.
Actually, I think that the 1964 film (available on DVD) "The Fall of the Roman Empire"
is a better portrayal of the Commodus era.
The story is somewhat similar to "Gladiator".
Stephen Boyd, the villian of "Ben Hur", gets to be the hero of this film.
The film also doesn't show how much of a scamp Commodus was.
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You wouldn't want to collect coins from the Bahamas or any place else that depicts fruit, would you?
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<< <i>I was watching "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" the other day, and the similarities between the human-flesh-eating tomatoes and Barack Obama are amazing. With all the anti-human activity in the Democratic Party, Obama displays the same erratic, sociopathic behavior so graphically depicted in the film decrying fruitocracy.
You wouldn't want to collect coins from the Bahamas or any place else that depicts fruit, would you? >>
Yea, verily!
As this happened years before the death of Marcus Aurelius (180 AD), there are few signs of reluctance towards Commodus succeding M.A. as emperor. David Sear writes that "Onthe death of Marcus Aurelius in March 180 AD the accession of his son to sole powerwas accomplished without opposition."
Here's an as from Commodus time as Caesar (before 177 AD), minted in Rome ca. 175-6 AD:
I second the opinion that it is best to keep the political rants off the coin boards. The ebay C&PM board has been flooded and nearly destroyed by posts like that. The OP could go over there and speak his opinion. They seem to never get enough of it there.
Svein
Svein
You have:
http://forums.collectors.com/[IMG]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x317/svessien/DSC09605.jpg
You want:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x317/svessien/DSC09605.jpg
Or "Antoninus" or is it "Antoninius". (It's the first)
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